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Equalizers and vst's
« on: May 05, 2011, 01:28:22 PM »
I was having a discussion about recording with various VST's, Equalizers etc, with a fellow 'recordist' musician the other day, and thoght I'd share a few points that came up.

I agree the "Pushtech" VST is a different animal... and takes some getting used to.  I didn't really like it very much on the first few uses myself...and found it really did take some getting used to, and knowing when to use it on what elements or tracks.
 
 My friend had a good point, he uses the PushTech because he likes the sound of it, and I'm sure that he's used it many different ways, experimenting with what works for him and what doesn't.  I gotta say, his sound HAS improved a lot over the past several months, and no doubt the vst's he's using and how he's using them is obviously working for him. 
 
 IMO, I think it's - especially for those just starting using a DAW and vst's, that they start with one or two types of EQ's, compressors or any of the vst's that are highly recommended, and use only those for as many tracks and mixes as possible. 

Using various presets, and tweaking several different mixes of the same tune with different settings of vst's can really be an eye opener... or should I say 'ear' opener... and once your ear is trained to the nuances of each vst, one gets an almost 'intuitive' feel for what is needed. Then move on to other vst's and the different nuances and characteristics of each will be heard more easily by the ear that is already used to hearing other vst's... from a 'comparison' standpoint.
 
 I've really noticed a difference in 'response' in the way certain EQ's work.  Comparing say, the Classic EQ, with the IIEQ.. there is a huge difference in the way each control responds - with respect to the amount of 'effect' that each tweak of the knob creates... although this may not be a fair comparison - as they are two different types of EQ, but even still, taking the PushTech and comparing it against the IIEQ, they still act like two different animals with even slight tweaks of a knob... the IIEQ IMO is one of the most 'responsive' EQ's I've heard yet..meaning even the slightest tweak of say 0.2 in certain frequencies can change the overall sound of the mix (when used in the Master slot) and incredible tool to shaping the overall sound of mix, or when mastering a stereo mix.  Just my opinion, for my ears though.
 
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Re: Equalizers and vst's
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2013, 06:42:47 PM »
Since this topic was posted I've had to chance to experiment with a few more EQ's and have really enjoyed the responsiveness of the Cockos ReaEQ (freeware) as it has many applications for various elements of a mix.
Hi shelf, 
low shelf\
band
low pass
hi pass
all pass
notch
band pass.

very versatile, and I find using a 'notch' filter setting focused on certain rogue frequencies can really clean up a mix.  It can also get rid of 'hum' and 'buzz'  or 'hiss' too.

a very versatile EQ that is quite transparent for subtle tweaks, and it can be aggressive as well - so it's great for treating a track, or an entire mix, and can even be used in "Mastering" applications.

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The Kjaerhus "Classic Series" EQ..also free, - I'm not so impressed with when compared to some of the others out there, however, it has it's place in shaping subtle tweaks in certain tracks.

I still use the ddmf IIEQ for many of my tracks, and even for sweetening during Mastering. It's as subtle as you wish (using less than 0.5 dB tweaks to certain bands) or as aggressive as you wish, using 3 or more dB cut/gain with Q shaping ...  I often find myself using it to quickly cut low end 'rumble' or hi end 'noise' from dirty tracks ... meaning - freqs below 60Hz and above 12KHz to clean up a mix or an individual track.

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Re: Equalizers and vst's
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2013, 08:38:26 PM »
I have used the IIEQ, Classic, and Pushtech. The Push was the most colored and had the most character, I thought.

Nowadays I go through my modded ART TubeEQ, then do surgical fixes with the Sonitus EQ in Sonar.

I'm sure if I recorded other folks and instruments I'd find a need for other tools, but I know what I'm shooting for, know what I sound like, and know what needs to go. (-2Db on the Guild at 400Hz 8) )
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